 | | | Apple and Gaming | Apple and Gaming 2007-11-22 - By Henry Maddocks
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I was really trying to avoid getting into this :(
On 23/11/2007, at 5:02 PM, Alexei Svitkine wrote:
> I say it's very un-Mac like to have the removal of an application
> to require more effort than a drag-n-drop to the trash.
Rubbish. There are apps available devoted to removing all traces of
apps from your disk. If you drag iPhoto.app to the trash does it
remove your iPhoto Library? What about the preferences or USER
installed plugins?
Drag and drop install is a Mac thing, not drag and drop un-install.
> Games that download their content (many megabytes, etc) to anywhere
> but their own folder automatically fail on this criteria.
>
> So you can argue both ways with this issue.
No you can't because Mac OSX is a 'secure' multi user environment and
you have to operate by the rules of that environment. Far cleverer
people then you, I or Aaron have set these rules for a reason. Follow
them.
> My question is, what's wrong with the game writing to its own
> folder inside Applications (note: it's not writing to the
> applications folder).
Because this makes the directory writ-able by anyone, including your
binary which is then open to being modified under the user.
Scenario...
User A downloads a trojan that modifies your app. User B (or worse,
root) runs your app which proceeds to hose the system.
Are you prepared to deal with that support call?
And sure you can come up with all sorts of elaborate schemes to get
round this, but we already have a simple one. Don't write to your app
bundle.
> With ACLs, the user who installs the game can add users who he
> would allow to use the game into the ACLs for the game's folder.
Permissions are way above most Mac users (and it appears some
developer) let alone ACLs. See the above comment about elaborate
schemes. Plus it doesn't solve the security issues.
> (Other than silly arguments like 'you can't run it from a disk
> image' ... oh no!).
Just about every app I download gets run from the disk image to see
if it's any good before I install it. You happy to fail that test?
Look, games aren't special. Other than crap UI there is absolutely
nothing that they do that any other app doesn't. Stop kidding
yourself and get with the program.
Henry
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